Q. Were is the facebook of the #openweb
A. Am being strate with you, no patronizing. Your asking for the wrong thing, and need to think about this :) you can't have what you ask for on the #openweb but you can have something different and better but you need to come to this realization some how. Talking to me might be a step or not :)
@Hamishcampbell Both is way too vague in my opinion as it completely leaves an actual understanding of requirements and needs. 😉
@z428 what do you mean? What info do you need.
@Hamishcampbell I don't need more info. Comparing the "open web" to a somewhat closed, controlled "walled garden" seems pretty much like comparing an open public space to a small confined club with entry restrictions. Completely different environments, completely different advantages, problems, use cases. 🙂
@z428 your saying the #dotcons are a small club and what remains of the #openweb is a large public garden. This is not how most people see it, but from the perspective of a tech subculture i can see this view too.
The advantages/problems view is obviously a value judgment, your values are comeing from a small tech subculture so can see that too.
Something you aren't seeing that is you can make judgments outside you world view. All real communication is based on this assumption
@Hamishcampbell Well, not really, I guess. Back like 10..15 years ago, there was an "openweb" (web pages, weblogs, trackbacks, RSS, ...), and there was a "small club" as well (authenticated non-public web forums, private mailing lists, ...). That's more what I meant. Ownership (dotcom vs. "open") is a different kind of thing. So far, we pretty often mix these things up and forget about the "openweb" not being *entirely* open in all aspects back then, either.
#encryptionists pushing securaty theater broke UI and trust based relationships
#geekproblem narrowed this into a irrelevant subculture.
#fashernistas inbraced the bad in both sides for self intrest, greed and empty fame.
#dotcons privatised data and metadata to the service of profit and social controle. All the above groups played there role in this.
The #openweb is a hollow shell for most people
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